Hello everyone. I've been "lurking" around the site ever since I had my abortion 6 days / a week ago, but I haven't posted anything until now. I'm so glad I came across this site ... it's nice to see something moderate, not pro-choice or pro-life, but just accepting. Why can't more of society be like this?
I've come here for support, I guess. I don't think I'm entirely sure at this point what I need or what I'm looking for. Nobody knows I was pregnant except my gay guy friend who I had to get to drive me. And I was just dying inside, I needed to tell someone. He is the only one in my life I have that would just support me without judging or scolding me or telling me they didn't want me to have an abortion or everything else along those lines. I feel so bad keeping it from my closest friends. Actually I only have two really close friends. The rest of my friends think I'm even still a virgin, I think. I haven't even talked very much to this friend who knows since high school. (I'm 21 now, a senior in college.) But he's the only one I could tell ...
So here is my story ...
I've been a pretty strong Christian most of my life, and I entered college swearing that I would never have sex until I was married. And then I started doubting everything I believed. Which is rather ironic considering that I'm attending Baylor, the world's largest Baptist university. (And hence it's hard to find people who are friendly towards sex outside of marriage or abortion ... ) About a month into my freshman year I met Jeremy, and after dating for a week we went to being just friends, and over time we became best friends. And then in my second semester we became best friends "with benefits". The decision to give up my virginity was very conscious and I thought about it for a long time and I have no regrets about that, except maybe that it was with him.
We remained best friends with benefits for quite a while. I fell in love, I thought, but realized that he was not in love with me, and buried the emotion. But in the fall of my sophomore year I started dating someone else, and all of a sudden Jeremy realized that he loved me. But when he found out I had had sex with the guy I was dating, he said he couldn't be friends with me anymore. I begged him not to leave me. I broke up with the guy (not only for Jeremy though, it wasn't working out anyways). At that point he asked a very important question: Could I ever have children? He has always wanted children very badly, and I have never wanted children, and have very strong reasons why I specifically do not want them. And so he said it couldn't work out. But we ended up remaining best friends with benefits. We stopped several times, sometimes because we just thought we should stop, and sometimes because he dated other people, but we always came back to each other. I was so emotionally attached to him. I neglected everything else in my life for him. I knew that the relationship wasn't healthy. He did not respect me, we fought all the time, he took me for granted, he was extremely selfish, ... and I still gave up everything. We stayed together until March of this year, and then we had a major fallout. We had had a couple of fallouts before, but this one ended up permanent, I guess. I won't go into details, but basically he slept with someone else (not for the first time), and I couldn't take it any more. I tried to stay his friend, but it was too much. I stopped talking to him over the summer. Now that I'm out of the situation, I've realized that it wasn't real love. Someone who loves someone doesn't treat them like he treated me; he only "loved" the position I filled in his life. And while I certainly felt something just as strong as love, I don't think that's what it was.
But I've been a complete wreck since then. I have clinical depression, and have been on many combinations of antidepressants ever since I tried to commit suicide in early high school. Losing Jeremy has thrown me right back to where I was my freshman year of college, when I was severely depressed and almost tried suicide again. (He was the only person who understood me. He was the only person who stayed in my life and cared for me and tried to help me, and I think that's partly why I became so attached.) I had gotten on a really good combination, except it hasn't really been working since the fallout.
In my loneliness and depression (and love of sex ... I think I'm going to go crazy without it) I had sex with my friend who was helping me get through it. The first time it was an accident. And then we just kept doing it. When I got back to school this semester I started it back up with him again. And also with another friend. So I've been having meaningless sex with these two friends, who really aren't friends ... I don't really give a damn about either of them. And they don't give a damn about me. At first I thought maybe the first one did, but I've been disillusioned. They've just been using me. And I guess I've just been using them too.
With Jeremy, until the last month or so that I was with him, I had been on birth control that my friend got me from the public school she's going to (you can't get it at Baylor). But then she didn't want to go to the doctor anymore, so she said to just go to Planned Parenthood. Except I never went. For a while I used condoms or contraceptive foam. Then I just used the timing method. Then I just got too depressed to care at all.
This summer I skipped a period, so when I skipped another period after school started, I didn't worry too much. (I hadn't had sex all summer and I had been having periods, so there was no way I could have been pregnant when I skipped the first one.) And then I got to wondering a little bit. Then I skipped a third period. I was in denial, and I never bought a pregnancy test. I just knew there was no way I could be pregnant - I hadn't had any morning sickness, hadn't been more tired than usual, hadn't had food cravings ... nothing. But I got to thinking. My breasts were a little bigger - I had thought that was because I was just gaining weight in general, but maybe not. I was rather emotional - maybe that wasn't just from depression. I had been just asking to get pregnant by what I was doing, having sex all the time with no protection. And so when it got to the point where I thought I should be having another period and wasn't, I got up the courage to buy a test. And that little line turned blue immediately. The box came with two tests, and so I got my friend, who's a virgin, to take the other one so I could see what it looked like (because the test wasn't entirely clear). When it looked different, we debated whether or not I was really pregnant. I told her I would go get a blood test somewhere to be sure. When she asked what I would do if I was, I told her there was no way I could have a baby, and she said, "No!" and hugged me. So I lied to her a couple days later and said I'd made an appointment. And then a few days after that I lied again and said I wasn't really pregnant.
When I got over the denial and decided that the test was right and that I was really pregnant, I knew immediately what I had to do. I cannot have a baby. For several reasons. I have never wanted children; I don't interact well with children; I've never even babysat. The depression is the main thing though. When I was going through the worst of it, I swore that I would never bring a living thing into this world. I swore never to give anything the risk of having to suffer the agony I suffered. Depression has a fairly strong genetic component, and I could not live with myself if I had a child who ended up with depression, for causing that suffering, and to someone that I would love very much, even if I never really wanted children. And I could not be a good mother if I were depressed, which is extremely likely. That isn't good for a child, to have a depressed mother that can't take care of them. Especially if she were a single mother, the only parent and caregiver, like I would be. And myself - I would be more likely to go through worse depression simply because of having a child. The stress would kill me. Perhaps literally. To be a mother, you have to be entirely selfless and give yourself and all of your efforts to that child, and I simply don't have that capacity. I can't give and give and give. And financially I would not be able to provide for a child at this point in my life. I haven't finished college. I don't even know what kind of job I can get once I do finish (I'm majoring in psychology and French). I'm completely in debt from loans. There would be no father around. I don't even know who the father is. And I wouldn't be able to take care of my child because I would be working all of the time. I hate to see it when my friends have single mothers, or even married mothers that work - every single one of them wishes they could have had a stay-at-home-mom. I don't know if I could afford the daycare anyways. Then there's the fact that there would be no father around. It's much healthier for a child to have their father around (mentally speaking). There wouldn't be the income, there wouldn't be anyone to take care of them if I became depressed, there wouldn't be anyone to take care of me either. Also my family, and friends, would disown me. They all think I'm still a virgin. They've already said that I would be cut off financially, and that they wouldn't help take care of a baby. I would have dishonor and lack of support, both financial and emotional. And then of course I have my selfish reasons. I want a career. I want to become a professor someday (I think). I could not have a job, go to school, and have a baby. I would never have the money to be able to build a house like I want to. I would never have the money or time to be able to travel in Europe. And I forgot to mention the brain damage and/or birth defects ... I have been drinking a lot, and well before I even suspected I was pregnant. Plus the overdose on birth control (I'll tell about that in a minute). I simply could not bear to bring such a miserable creature into the world. All-in-all, having a baby might be possible even with the disgrace and giving up my dreams and being in a financially tight spot and being a single mother and not having family support and not wanting children to begin with. But really the depression is the main thing. I don't want to pass that on. And I don't want to be a bad mother because of it. And I am very afraid of the personal agony I might suffer again. And the birth defects are the other important thing. Even with adoption, there is still that along with the depression any child of mine would very likely have. And also the disgrace I would have. All of these combined make for one very hopeless situation.
I've always been pro-choice, even when I was a strong Christian. And so when I came to terms with the fact that I was pregnant, I knew I had to terminate the pregnancy, due to all of the reasons I just mentioned. I had 1 and 1/2 months of birth control left over, and I took it all at once, because I don't have the money for an abortion. Except it didn't work. Nothing happened, nothing at all. I had started researching abortion on the internet immediately anyways, and I knew that the later into the pregnancy you were, the more it cost. And so as soon as Monday rolled around, I began calling places that didn't have their prices listed on the internet. That same afternoon I made an appointment for that Saturday at a clinic in Dallas. I couldn't do it on a weekday because if I miss any more classes, I fail (we have an attendance policy). I figured that if the birth control worked and I had a miscarriage that I could just cancel the appointment. If not, I decided to charge it to my credit card and just pay it off over time. I'll tutor people or something to earn money. I'm taking 19 hours both this semester and next, so I don't have any time at all for a real job.
The week or so before the abortion, I think I was in denial. It didn't seem real. It didn't seem like I had a baby growing in me. And I didn't feel very guilty, if I even did at all. I suppose the lack of guilt felt appropriate, considering the opinions I've always had. But in it's own way it did seem real. I finally decided talk to my friend (the one who drove me). It was partly because I was afraid to have the procedure without drugs, and partly because I just needed somebody ... I am so terribly alone. I most certainly can't tell either of the potential fathers. For one thing I don't even know which one it was. Even if I did, I couldn't tell. It's mostly to spare their feelings. And partly out of guilt. I had just lied and said I was on birth control. And and I was also afraid that they would try to stop me from having an abortion. I was pretty sure that they were both pro-choice, but a lot of people believe one thing but would do something different if they themselves were in the situation. (Except I found out later that one of them believes that abortion should be legal, but that it is basically wrong.)
I got to the clinic on Saturday with my friend. They did a urine test, then blood tests, then the ultrasound. I asked if I could see it, because I thought I would be able to deal with it better if I had seen. I don't think I could handle it always wondering, being in the dark. For that same reason, I asked them only to give me half of the sedation they usually give, so that I would be able to remember what happened. I don't want a giant black spot in my memory. I need the memory in order to deal. I was worried that they might not let me see the ultrasound. But they did. At that moment it became real. I struggled not to become teary-eyed. I realized "there really is a baby in there". They said I was at 13 weeks (11 weeks really, I guess - I'm going to ask how they count at the follow-up appointment). I was surprised it was so long. That means I got pregnant about a week after I started having sex again. That also meant that the abortion would cost $80 more - $375. I signed the credit card receipt in numbness. (At least I wasn't Rh negative, another $100.)
They sent me back out into the waiting room for a while, then called me back in when it was time for the procedure. I went to the restroom, again struggling not to let myself get emotional, and saying a hasty goodbye to the (life? baby? fetus?) in me. I'd never thought of it as real before. I'd never acknowledged it was there. And it was about to be gone forever. Dead. (I'm crying again now, as I write this.) Then I banished the emotions and went in. They gave me the sedation. I'm glad I only asked for half. I don't remember anyone else coming into the room, or leaving it. But I do remember someone walking me through the process, telling me they were putting in the dilators, telling me when the machine was going to start, telling me I was doing excellently on half the dose, telling me when they'd finished. It was actually pretty painful, even with the sedation. I lost my sense of time, so I don't know how long it lasted. But it hurt. At one point I asked for more sedation. I don't know if they ever gave it to me, because it seemed like they said they were finished just a moment after that. They stood me up and put my clothes on, and I felt blood rushing down my legs as they put on my underwear with a pad on them. They must have wiped it off. During the procedure I never thought about the baby at all. I don't know what I was thinking of. But I'm glad I didn't. Afterwards, they wheeled me into a recovery room where I sat/laid there waiting for the sedation to wear off. Then they got my friend to bring around the car and they wheeled me to it. Then we left.
We actually went out to eat that afternoon, after driving around for about an hour looking for a particular restaurant. We talked about nothing in particular, and I felt like I should feel worse about what had just happened. When we got back to his apartment, I laid down to rest and he got on his computer. I thought back to the sonogram. And I started crying. I tried to cry silently (at the same time hoping that he would notice anyways and come comfort me). But then he heard me and he did come over and held me while I cried. I couldn't even identify what I was feeling. I just saw that picture in my head and cried.
My friend went to work later, and I took the time alone to write in my journal some and just think, and cry. I had made myself calm down earlier because I didn't want to make him feel bad. But once I was alone I just let myself cry as much as I needed to. I cried about "my Baby". I cried "I killed my baby". I apologized to it/him/her. (I wish I knew if it was a boy or a girl.) I prayed to God - I prayed that it be in heaven and warm and happy and comforted. I prayed for the baby to forgive me. I didn't pray for God to forgive me. He knows my heart. He knows why I did what I did. He sees all. He will judge me or forgive me as he sees fit. I am so sad about this, but I know that it was the only choice. And I think God knows that too. This baby is so, so, so much better off in heaven than in this world. (I used to not think that God gave souls to babies that soon, but now I think maybe he does. I don't know.)
The following day I only got choked up a few times, but the couple days after that I cried more. And these last couple days I haven't cried at all, until tonight when I've been on here reading the board and writing this post. Even now though I'm not crying as much. I've just been generally depressed about it. I feel guilty for not feeling worse. I wish I had more physical pain, as payment, or punishment, or something. The odd thing is that beforehand I didn't really expect that I would cry at all. I don't know how I thought I would react. I'm not sure I gave much thought to it at all. Obviously I knew I would need to deal with it in some fashion because I knew I wanted to see the sonogram picture and only half the sedation. I ended up staying the night at my friend's place that night, and when I got back Sunday I bought some candles to burn for my baby, in memory, or in pentance, or in honor ... I'm not sure. For the couple days of school this week (only two due to the Thanksgiving holiday), I thought of the candle every time I thought about it. And I cried in front of the candle, and I laid on my bed staring at the candle. The flame, rather.
I don't even recognize why I'm feeling sad/depressed. I only feel it. This is so unusual for me; I am usually very in-touch with all of that.
I hate myself for being so irresponsible. I hate myself for creating something that the only choice was to get rid of. I want to go back in time and never get pregnant. In the future I am going to be almost paranoid about birth control. I'll never be able to think about sex the same way again. I'm not going to have sex anymore until I'm in love, though, anyways. But how can someone love me after what I've done? Although I suppose if they're like I was then it will be alright. But they'll never see it they way I do now, they'll never realize. (Realize what? I'm not sure yet.) I'm still pro-choice, and if I could go back to when I found out I was pregnant, I would still do the same thing. There was no choice. But it is just so sad. It is so terrible. I am never going to make the same mistake again.
I had a baby ... I had a baby. I was a mother. (What a horrible mother I turned out to be.) I love my baby now. I wish I could have loved it when it was still here. I wish I'd realized beforehand. (But then maybe I wouldn't have been able to go through with it.) My baby is gone. I killed it. I still feel so guilty even though I know heaven is so much better than the life it would have had here. I had a baby.
I don't know where I'll be in another week or month or year. I'll probably be just fine. But I know I'm changed. I feel so much more adult and mature. (But not in a good way.) So different and separated from everyone else. I will never think about abortion in the same way, or sex in the same way. I will never again be irresponsible in this way.
I feel so alone. People argue with me over just my not ever wanting children - they could never accept this. And I don't want to burden the friend who knows. I don't want him to feel bad for me. I don't want him to regret supporting me. I have no one. And so you find me here.
I'm sorry this is so long. I don't feel like I can take out anything, though; it is all important to why I did what I did. But just writing it has helped me.
Even if I will be fine eventually, I hope that everyone here will help me through this.
- teiluj98
Saturday, November 26, 2005
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(((HUGS))) Julie. You are right....to completely understand you, the situation, and how you are feeling you needed to tell the whole story. I am so sorry for what you have been through.
Everything that you are feeling is normal, though. It is okay to let yourself grieve for your baby. You are a mother who lost her baby. Maybe in a different way than some mothers, but you are a mother, nonetheless. A mother whose baby is with Jesus.
You're right...God knows your heart. And he will forgive you, if you ask Him sincerely.
You are loved and supported here. Feel free to work through this here and begin the healing process.
(((HUGS))),
Chris
*crying* I am so sorry sweetie, that you have joined the ranks of millions of women who suffer regret after the fact...I am a fellow member of those unhappy ranks. Or I was. It has taken 6 yrs to fully heal and be at peace with my abortion. I want you to know that your baby is whole, is at peace and you need to grieve and allow yourself to heal as well. Sometimes in life you do what you think you need to in order to survive. God knows we make mistakes and He forgives. I was 7 wks when I aborted and my story is posted here at CTLW if you want to read it. Also, a poem that I wrote to my baby which you might find uplifting. We all love you and will support you whenever you need it. You say that you have matured and sadly, I have to agree. I felt the same way after mine. It is a bittersweet enlightenment isnt it? Take your feelings to God and allow him to be the loving father, not just a hardened judge. I will be praying for you. As a side note, I also had my abortion at a clinic in Dallas...(((hugs sweetie))
Julie,
I am so glad that you were able to come and share your heart with us. Thank you for trusting us to help you during this time, and it's my hope and prayer that you are able to begin the road of healing. ((((Hugs))))
There's just so much I'd love to tell you, but I don't want to go on and on. I'm wondering - do you have Yahoo Instant Messenger? That's an easy way to have a conversation with a lot of us. (I think at least 4 of us have Yahoo IM.) It's free, and I'd encourage you to download it if at all possible. I'm going to email you as well, since it's hard to talk about such a personal thing on a public message board, so please check your email after you read this.
I think everything you are feeling is completely normal, but that doesn't make it easier. Are you seeing a counselor or anything to work through this? Perhaps in another town where no one knew you? The candle is a wonderful memorial.
Big, big, gentle ((((((hugs)))))) to you hon. I am so sorry that you have been through this - not just the abortion but also all the things that led up to the abortion. I wish I could just take that pain right away from you. All I can do though is offer you my unconditional love and support. So you are not alone anymore...you have us. I hope to hear from you very soon.
Hey how are you hon? Any update for us? Hope all is well. Please come back and let us know if there is anything else you'd like to talk about. God bless!
Hi everyone.
I'm so sorry I haven't been around. There is one more week of school (finals week) and this past week has just been horrible trying to get finished with everything; they like to make everything due at the last minute (which isn't really that good for those of us who procrastinate anyways, heh). I have been getting about 2 hours of sleep per night, and I think this upcoming week will be pretty much the same way. So I will probably be gone for another week or so. This is so stressful. It is so hard to concentrate on school with everything else going on.
Thank you so very much for your replies. It really means a lot to me. I know that sounds kind of cliché, but I don't really know how else to say it.
I will be back soon.
Good luck with everything at school. I know it's hard, but try to get some more sleep so you can try to be a little more clear headed. It will probably be a nice break to have a few weeks before you have to go back to relax a little and have some you time. Let us know how you're doing when you get a chance.
No hurry hon. Spend your time sleeping and studying, and get back to us when you can. (((Hugs))) I know it's hard to focus when there is so much going on inside. Just pray for the ability to focus.
I'm back, finally. I'm sorry it took so long. I had a million things to finish up that week after Thanksgiving, and then there was finals week. And then I had promised a friend that I would visit her in Denton, and so I just got back. It was kind of hard being around people so much and trying not to act entirely depressed the whole time.
::sigh:: Well I suppose I am feeling sort of better. A lot has happened. I hate drama, yet it seems I can't escape it. I didn't think I was going to tell anybody about this, but I've broken down and told an old friend Daniel (actually I dated him once). He was freaked out, but he has been so supportive. He was coming to Waco to visit old friends and stopped by and visited me too, and just let me cry and talk, and took me out to dinner. And then I got really drunk and showed up at Jon's place and told him about it. He was the one that thought abortion should be legal but thought it was basically wrong. But he was not very upset at all. In fact I don't think he was. He said that he would have wanted me to have an abortion. What is up with that? But he was really worried about me because I was acting very depressed. He called our school's counseling center to get information for me. He's not very emotionally supportive though, but that's just his personality. After him, I was visiting a friend in Fort Hood, and ended up telling him. And he was not judgmental. He was very nice about it. And then I broke down and told my sister; I drove to Dallas the other day for the follow-up appointment, and got a copy of the sonogram, and I was crying and she happened to call, and I calmed myself down and answered, but didn't stay calm, and ended up spilling it to her. She said she understood. Of course she understands; she is my sister, and we have a lot in common. And I also confessed to one of my best friends (the one I visited in Denton). And she was much more understanding than I thought she would be. And she convinced me to tell David too, and ask him for money, which I did tonight. He reacted pretty much the same way Jon did. I am honestly really surprised that everyone has been so ... kind? supportive? I don't know why I was so scared to begin with. And yet at the same time I still am scared. Or embarrassed, or something. I'm not sure what to think. But I am really mad at myself for being so unstable and spilling to the whole world. I don't understand why I do these things ... I am not a drama queen; I hate attention; so why am I doing this? This is not something I am proud of, and I don't like everyone knowing, and yet I've gone and told them all.
Daniel has been so wonderfully supportive. And Hoa (the friend in Denton) has been wonderful as well. And I have a feeling things will be ok with my sister. I don't understand it. I mean, I suppose I do, but at the same time I am baffled. I am angry with Jon and David though. They were nice about it, and it makes me feel better that they agree with my decision, but I just feel so awkward having them know, and I am mad that they are not as upset as I am. At the time that I told Jon, I thought there was a 50-50 chance that it was either him or David. But I got the sonogram copy the other day and the timeframe is a little different than what they told me in the office, and so now I am pretty certain it was David. So when I talked to Hoa, and told her how distressed I was about money now, she thought I should tell David and get him to pay for half (he is very well off financially, so I don't feel bad about it). So when I told Jon, he thought there was only a chance it was him, but when I told David, he thought it was his for sure, and yet he wasn't upset about it hardly at all!!! I don't understand! What is wrong with them? It hurts that they are not as upset about this as I am, even if they were nice about it.
So if it is not bad enough that I actually told several people including both of the potential fathers, I had sex again. An old friend who I have known for over 10 years called me up a couple weeks ago. He joined the Army after high school, and was about to be deployed for Iraq. And so we had dinner together. And we had such a wonderful night that I went ahead and visited him on base when he asked. I mean, he is about to be in Iraq, in war, for a year. And I really really thought I wouldn't be having sex again until I was in love or engaged, but of course the inevitable happened. I was really scared and at first I said no, and I had told him already about the abortion and so he understood and respected my decision. But I felt so bad for him, and he had told me about his particular job and how dangerous it is and how he might actually die over there ... I wanted him to have this "gift", if you want to call it that. I did it for him (but he did not pressure me; don't get that idea). Only a little for me, because honestly I think it would be really easy for me to fall in love with him, and also he asked me if I would be interested in dating when he got back. Of course, we used a condom; I was very adamant about that. But I am still soooo scared. It was Saturday night (the 10th) that we had sex, and last night I started spotting. At first I thought it was my period, but it has stayed very light, and now it's going away. What if this is spotting from implantation???!!! I know that I am not going to have another abortion. Even with all of my reasons for not wanting children, I am not going to do that again. And Tim is a very good guy and we care very much for each other; he would marry me, I have absolutely no doubt, and he would support me and the baby. But all the same, this is still such a life-changing event! I really really hope I am not pregnant. Except what if Tim dies over there? Then I would be a single mom anyways; and I would be grief-stricken.
At least I was not stupid this time; at least I used protection; at least I was hesitant. But I still feel so stupid! This is just ridiculous. I mean, to be honest, I was feeling a bit of that "replacement baby" syndrome, but by no means did I actually want it to come true!!
I want my baby back. Even if I am pregnant again, this is not the same baby. I want it to be back inside of me, and I want to love it and hold it and take care of it. I never, ever wanted to be a mother, not even when I was a child; I never even played with dolls. But now I find myself really wanting to be a mother, to have a child. I suppose it will pass with time. But I feel it so strongly. It is as if that part of me has been awakened. (And yet at the same time I am very afraid of being pregnant again. I really confuse myself!)
Ok I am just plain exhausted, so I am going to go to sleep now. I'm sorry if some of this post might be repetitive or incoherent or rambling. I will clarify later anything that was confusing - just let me know; and I will elaborate more on other parts that might not be finished - let me know about those too.
Big big big hugs to everyone!
-Julie
P.S. I did get Yahoo messenger; my screen name is teiluj98, just like on here. Just let me know when ya'll will be on if ya'll want to talk on that. I also have AOL messenger if anyone uses that; my name is eiluj89 on there.
Edit: What is the first period after an abortion supposed to be like? What was it like for everyone? Does it come at a normal time, a regular cycle length afterwards? Can it just be really light, only using a single pad? Are you supposed to have weird bleeding in between it and when you stopped bleeding from the abortion? What is implantation bleeding like?
Hi Julie Smile
Thanks for coming back to update us. ((((Hugs)))) This is just a quick note to let you know that I'm going to reply in depth tomorrow night. The weekends are pretty slow around here. We're not ignoring you though. Smile
I'll add you to my Yahoo list tomorrow night too.
Hang in there hon.
(((HUGS))) Hi Julie, I'm so sorry this is so difficult for you. You mentioned someone getting information for you about seeing a counselor. Have you looked into that? It seems like it might be helpful to have someone you can sit face to face with and work through this. A local women's center or pregnancy center might be a good place to check, too.
I could be way off base here, but I used to be the same way, telling myself I wasn't going to have sex and somehow it just kept happening. It seemed like I was not in control of myself. After I got pregnant, I decided I had to change something, and after working through some things, I realized that my issue was a lack of self-esteem. I had never really had a close relationship with my dad, and I think it was a desire to feel loved by a man that drove me to do it. I don't know how things are with you, but after realizing the probable reason for why I was doing it, it was easier to change. That's something that a counselor might be able to work through with you.
I'm so glad you are comfortable and able to share your feelings here. Keep talking through this. It's a difficult thing to go through, and we're here to help however we can.
I'll continue to keep you in my prayers.
Love and (((HUGS))),
I just wanted to remind you that you are not alone...I too went through a string of unfulfilling sexual encounters in the time just after my abortion. Sometimes it is a subconsious desire to replace the baby, but more often it is just an emotional void that we try to fill...It is very important to seek counseling and remain abstinent until you feel healed enough to pursue a strong relationship. Otherwise, you may be right back at square 1. It is important not to judge yourself too harshly but at the same time, re evaluate your risky behavior. If you were protected, then I wouldnt worry as much. However, Stds are no joke either and pregnancy is not the worst thing that could result from casual sex (even with "friends with benefits"). Take good care of yourself sweetie! You are in my prayers.
You certainly have had a busy few weeks, haven't you? (((Hugs))) It sounds like you are really needing to feel loved and cared for right now - even though you say that you hate attention. Everyone craves it...it's normal to want to feel someone cares and understands. I'm sure that's what you were doing when you decided to tell everyone. Not only that, but you probably also needed to feel validated that the abortion was the right choice while at the same time feel validated that it was a painful choice. You did get most of that, but you didn't really hear anyone say "That must've been so hard for you to go through!" That would've helped most of all, because regardless of whether this was the "right" choice for you, you feel miserable about it, and you need to hear that it's okay to feel that way. I just can see you driving around looking for someone to say that to you, and you didn't hear it, so you drove to the next person looking for those words of comfort.
Ditto on the sex. It's normal to just want to feel close to someone, to feel "normal," to feel carefree after an abortion that has left you with difficult emotions. There probably was a certain level of the replacement baby going on as well. Mostly, you just found someone that cared for you and wanted to be close to you. The trick is to get that in other ways than sex. Sex can be wonderful, but it can also cause even more pain and emotional problems. While you are healing, I would really encourage you to take care of yourself by staying out of situations that lead to sex. Know your boundaries ahead of time, and tell yourself that you are doing this to take care of you. Smile That's what's most important right now!
When is your period due? If it was just due when you started spotting, it's unlikely that you could get pregnant from sex that occured on the 10th. You usually are most fertile 12-16 days prior to the start of your period, depending on the length of your cycle. Not to mention that you used a condom.
The feeling of wanting to be a mother might not go away, but right now, it's probably in part due to the abortion, and it'd be a good idea to heal from that before you get pregnant on purpose - that way there is a definite distinction and healthy attitude to the next baby.
I added you to my Yahoo IM. I'm usually on very late at night (until about 5am EST). When are you on?
Your first AF after an abortion can be a bit different - more cramps, etc. It shouldn't only be spotting though, unless that's regular for you. It should come on time, but it can be late too. For this cycle, I'd really say that pretty much anything goes. The following cycle should be back to normal completely though. You need not call the doctor unless the bleeding is abnormally heavy, but you can always call if you have questions. From the site: Implantation spotting is caused by the embryo burrowing into the lining of the uterus. This action shreds some of the uterine lining, and it gradually descends into the vagina. Implantation spotting is usually very light pink or brown, and it usually only lasts a day or two. (http://www.choicetolivewith.com/FetalDevelopment/week3.html).
((((Hugs)))) Talk to you soon I hope.
Hi again everyone. I'm sorry I haven't been around. I got through with finals and got home for the holidays and didn't want to do anything at all ... so I didn't. And for a while I was kind of avoiding thinking about things. But now I'm more ready to face it, I guess. And this semester has ended up a lot easier than I was expecting (I'm taking 13 hours instead of 19 ... and 6 hours in France this summer!), so I have a little more time for myself.
Well, I finally got my period so I'm not pregnant, unless I'm one of those odd cases where you get a period while you're pregnant. So that is quite fortunate. Very very fortunate indeed.
I don't think I am ever going to get pregnant on purpose. In fact, I would like to get endometrial ablation (do a search on google to find out more information - it's really interesting), once I get the money for it. I mean, yes, my mothering instincts have certainly been awakened, but my reasons for not wanting children are still there, and I am 99.999% determined. Should I ever decide I want children, I'll adopt. You know, it is very weird for me to have these feelings of wanting to be a mother. I've never experienced them before - ever.
I am slowly getting over the abortion. My friends were there initally, but they don't want to deal with it, or they don't understand that I'm still dealing with it, or something like that. That is to say that basically the support is not there. But, after avoiding it for awhile, I've just been kind of letting myself feel whatever I'm going to feel. Mainly it's sadness. Some guilt. I dunno. I mostly think about it at night alone, and usually when I do for more than just a minute, I cry.
Sex is something that is not going to be happening for a very long time. I only did with Tim because he's going away possibly to his death. It's a strange and sad situation... And it was probably a bad decision on my part. But it's alright, now.
I'm sorry my posts are so long. But now I can get on more often and so there will be less updating and therefore less length, heh.
Thank you all so very much for your replies. I really do appreciate them...
-Julie
Hi Julie,
Glad to see you again! I'm glad things are going to slow down for you a little bit. I hope that this leaves more time to work on the "inner you." I'm glad you're not pregnant too! Those are emotions that might just be too overwhelming right now.
I understand your reasoning for not wanting to get pregnant, and my only thought is that you should wait before trying to have surgery to prevent pregnancy. Do you have heavy, painful periods? They probably won't do an ablation unless that is your primary reason for wanting one, and I can further bet that they won't do it on a 21-year-old for fear of lawsuits. As long as you aren't having sex, you won't get pregnant, and even then, there are precautions you can take just in case.
I understand what you mean about your friends. I think a lot of it is they just don't know what to say. They're wondering, "Do I support her choice and tell her it was a great thing she did? Or does she want me to say that it's too bad that it happened?" etc. They also probably don't get why you're still dealing with some emotion over it. I'm glad you're talking here, and those feelings you're having are normal. They hurt, but they serve a good purpose to - they will push you to move forward and heal.
(((Hugs)))) Keep talking...
Hi everybody,
Wow, it seems like a bunch of people seem to revisit after about a year. I remember reading about a few of you last year, then you (and I) disappeared. And now we're back I guess.
Well, I had the abortion last November. After that I experienced really bad depression. And felt the desire to have a child (replacement-baby syndrome I guess) for the first time ever. I've basically returned to my normal self, except I find myself wondering about having children rather frequently, and it's getting more and more frequent. I don't actually want any children and yet I do at the same time. I've been living with my current boyfriend for about 4 months, always very cautious with birth control, yet always fearful - and slightly hopeful - of getting pregnant. I don't know what's going on. It's so confusing. I know it would be a complete disaster if I got pregnant, but my emotions are going completely opposite of my thoughts.
I also battle severe depression and have been rather depressed lately (and by lately I mean the last 7-8 months or so), so I wonder if that has something to do with it. Are there issues I haven't resolved or something? I'm really hoping to see a counselor about it soon - I have a new job and new insurance, but I need clarification on the policy about mental health - right now it's looking rather bleak, like they'll only cover about 6 sessions a year or something.
I originally left this site about 5 or 6 months after joining it, because it was kind of holding me back from healing, reading all this every day. So I healed for a while, but now I'm back. I guess I just need to talk to somebody.
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